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#1 trammel

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:49 AM

Even this small deviation would open up the possibility of time travel and play havoc with longstanding notions of cause and effect. Einstein himself — the author of modern physics, whose theory of relativity established the speed of light as the ultimate limit — said that if you could send a message faster than light, “You could send a telegram to the past.”


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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:02 AM

http://www.theregist.../cern_coverity/

CERN have a habit of producing 'scientific' programs, by which i mean they are full of bugs and should have been done by professionals rather than academics. That said, good effort to them for sticking with a piece of software like that.

Begs the question however, just how accurate or stable is the rest of the software this lot run on various other projects? oh say like a neutrino tracking super computer...

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:13 AM

Software bugs? You mean it might just be bad number-crunching? Well, that's disappointing.

How about a bird that can bend time and space while it holds a bit of baguette in its' beak?

While most scientists would write off the event as a freak accident, two esteemed physicists have formulated a theory that suggests an alternative explanation: perhaps a time-traveling bird was sent from the future to sabotage the experiment. Bech Nielsen of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto, Japan, have published several papers over the past year arguing that the CERN experiment may be the latest in a series of physics research projects whose purposes are so unacceptable to the universe that they are doomed to fail, subverted by the future.


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Posted 23 September 2011 - 01:44 PM

I'm eagerly waiting for the results to be independently verified. Until they are, I'm super skeptical.
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Posted 23 September 2011 - 04:26 PM

It seems to make sense that something could move faster than the speed of light... speed could be infinite as long as a greater force was put on an object, i would think.
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Posted 24 September 2011 - 06:55 PM

I'm eagerly waiting for the results to be independently verified. Until they are, I'm super skeptical.



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Posted 18 November 2011 - 04:35 AM

Here you are.

Second experiment confirms faster-than-light particles
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Posted 18 November 2011 - 08:54 PM

2nd Experiment by the same folks. They just ruled out some of the perceived problems with the original study.
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Posted 19 November 2011 - 02:01 PM

Its a step closer. I'm willing to discount things like my earlier reservations on software bugs being responsible for example. But until there is proper peer review studies conducted and the results replicated using other kit, i remain sceptical.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 06:09 PM

Its a step closer. I'm willing to discount things like my earlier reservations on software bugs being responsible for example. But until there is proper peer review studies conducted and the results replicated using other kit, i remain sceptical.


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Posted 19 November 2011 - 07:00 PM

Well, you guys are free to remain skeptical all you want. That's completely your choice.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:32 AM

THE SAGA CONTINUES

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:37 PM

Neutrinos are affected only by the weak sub-atomic force, of much shorter range than electromagnetism, and gravity which is relatively weak on the subatomic scale, and are therefore able to travel great distances through matter without being affected by it.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 09:30 PM

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:17 AM

'“The evidence is beginning to point towards the OPERA result being an artefact of the measurement,” said CERN Research Director Sergio Bertolucci, in a press release, adding that “it’s important to be rigorous, and the Gran Sasso experiments, BOREXINO, ICARUS, LVD and OPERA will be making new measurements with pulsed beams from CERN in May to give us the final verdict.”'

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:46 AM

'Francis Halzen of the University of Wisconsin, has declared that the results "have put half the theorists out of business", and we can now basically say with certainty that these gamma-ray bursts are not the source of neutrinos. That goes against what had been the prevailing theoretical consensus, and so now physicists have to go looking for a new one.'


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Posted 30 April 2012 - 10:24 PM

'Francis Halzen of the University of Wisconsin, has declared that the results "have put half the theorists out of business", and we can now basically say with certainty that these gamma-ray bursts are not the source of neutrinos. That goes against what had been the prevailing theoretical consensus, and so now physicists have to go looking for a new one.'



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I guess coming up with a new theory that seems worth researching is the hard part? If not, I'll make something up. Neutrinos are what is left after bean farts dissipate, and are the source of all entropy. The big bang? Bean fart. There, go research it bitches!
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:40 PM

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